The Witch Woman's Guide to Magick and Rituals

Right After Witch Woman In the realm of folklore and mythology, witches have long been a subject of fascination and fear. These mysterious and often powerful women have captivated imaginations throughout history, captivating both young and old with their ability to cast spells, brew potions, and fly on broomsticks. However, while the concept of witches has been widely explored in literature and pop culture, there is one aspect of witchcraft that is often overlooked - the women who come after the witch. These women, who live in the shadows of their magical predecessors, are often left to pick up the pieces of a community in turmoil. They are the healers, the caretakers, and the protectors of their people. They may not possess the same supernatural abilities as the witches before them, but they have their own unique talents and strengths that allow them to guide their communities through difficult times.

The Curse Ring can be useful when paired with Tifa's Powersoul or Master Fist weapons, as the Death-sentence status makes her deal quadruple the normal damage with Powersoul, and triple damage with the Master Fist. Either of these setups can have their damage output increased via having Tifa in critical health in the case of the former, or suffering from various status ailments in the case of the latter.

The Cursed Ring can be found in the very beginning of the game after fighting the Behemoth, Zack is transported back to the Shinra Building and Kunsel asks him to check the lockers. The Curse Ring is particularly beneficial when combined with the Added Effect and Destruct or Odin Materia linked in a character s armor, as this will negate the Instant Death effect caused by Death Sentence.

They may not possess the same supernatural abilities as the witches before them, but they have their own unique talents and strengths that allow them to guide their communities through difficult times. In many cultures, these women are known by different names - shamans, wise women, or herbalists. They possess a deep knowledge of the earth and the natural world, using herbs and plants to heal the sick and injured.

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It will get it off, but the curse remains. And the ring will generally show up on another finger after its been thrown away.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by garhkal » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:41 am

Yup. Just as removing the ring and putting it under a rock, then running away will see the ring re-appear on the hand after the character sleeps next (or at the next time he puts his hand in his pocket and then pulls it out. Remove curse on the item is needed first.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by Madalch » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:49 am

My next character will be nicknamed "The Gazebo", as he will be hated and feared by paladins everywhere.
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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by genghisdon » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:56 am

Tozzi wrote: BTB, if a person has a cursed ring. And they cut the finger off, will that get the ring off?

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by phantasm72 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:19 pm

removal of the finger would be a sure-fire way to get rid of a ring and its assosiated curse
though unless its a wedding ring, then you need a lawyer too

Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by serleran » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:21 pm

The ring crawls inside the character's hand. And then, if that gets lobbed off, up the arm and then into the chest cavity.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by garhkal » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:32 pm

Now big related q.. Some cursed rings (delusion is a biggie) list regeneration as one of the 'side effects of it, to make you think it is NOT cursed.

So would the cut off finger regrow?

Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by phantasm72 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:04 am

garhkal wrote: Now big related q.. Some cursed rings (delusion is a biggie) list regeneration as one of the 'side effects of it, to make you think it is NOT cursed.

So would the cut off finger regrow?

first time I heard that regeneration was a side effect of a cursed item.
so would regeneration regrow a finger? Well, if if doesnt, what exactly does regeneration do then?

Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by serleran » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:08 am

garhkal wrote: Now big related q.. Some cursed rings (delusion is a biggie) list regeneration as one of the 'side effects of it, to make you think it is NOT cursed.

So would the cut off finger regrow?

How can it? If the finger with the ring is cut off, assuming you rule the ring goes with it, there is no magic effect on the character because the ring is not on. If the finger was cut off while the ring was off, placing it back on does not regrow the digit because regeneration from those effects works only on damage sustained while the ring is on.

So, it would regen a finger, if that finger is not the one with the ring.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by garhkal » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:40 pm

garhkal wrote: Now big related q.. Some cursed rings (delusion is a biggie) list regeneration as one of the 'side effects of it, to make you think it is NOT cursed.

So would the cut off finger regrow?

first time I heard that regeneration was a side effect of a cursed item.
so would regeneration regrow a finger? Well, if if doesnt, what exactly does regeneration do then?

Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by Waraxe » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:19 am

Without knowing what the curse is, I rule the pc/npc with the cursed ring cannot remove it by dismembering the digit or limb themselves. The curse should prevent that from happening. If someone else tries to remove the ring by force the pc/npc will defend/attack to keep the item. If the cursed ring is servered from the player by someone else, I allow a new save -4. Failure means the pc/npc will fight follow(think Gollum) to regain the cursed ring(or other item) til death or successful remove curse.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by Mock26 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:38 pm

For me it would depend on the curse, but generally speaking I would allow such an action to get rid of the curse, simply because getting regeneration is probably going to be more difficult than getting a remove curse spell.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by Justisaur » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:54 pm

Waraxe wrote: Without knowing what the curse is, I rule the pc/npc with the cursed ring cannot remove it by dismembering the digit or limb themselves. The curse should prevent that from happening. If someone else tries to remove the ring by force the pc/npc will defend/attack to keep the item. If the cursed ring is servered from the player by someone else, I allow a new save -4. Failure means the pc/npc will fight follow(think Gollum) to regain the cursed ring(or other item) til death or successful remove curse.

I like this one.

But yes it really depends how powerful the curse is. It could be anywhere from 'the pc can take the ring off on his own once he knows about it' to 'ring keeps showing up with finger reattached'.

Of the two in the DMG I'd treat the Ring of Contrariness as Waraxe has suggested. The Ring of Weakness I'd let the removal of the finger work, but the damage will already have been done and persist.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by Xabloyan » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:54 pm

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by garhkal » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:33 pm

Mock26 wrote: For me it would depend on the curse, but generally speaking I would allow such an action to get rid of the curse, simply because getting regeneration is probably going to be more difficult than getting a remove curse spell.

Well, having the loss of 1 finger is not a significant problem in game, so i don't feel removing your finger is a suitable reason to get around a curse

Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by serleran » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:17 pm

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by garhkal » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:32 pm

Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by serleran » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:36 pm

Yeah, "certain actions" like holding anything, opening doors, using the hands for any thief-related abilities. Nothing. Indeed.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by Mock26 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:01 am

Mock26 wrote: For me it would depend on the curse, but generally speaking I would allow such an action to get rid of the curse, simply because getting regeneration is probably going to be more difficult than getting a remove curse spell.

Well, having the loss of 1 finger is not a significant problem in game, so i don't feel removing your finger is a suitable reason to get around a curse

Unless they are low level or extremely poor getting any curse removed is really easy. And unless the curse is really, really bad they usually just end up being more of an annoyance than a real threat to the individual in question, especially if the rest of the group simply subdues the person and then drags him back to the nearest big city and a cleric, or if the group is high enough level the cleric himself can simply cast the spell. So, given how easy it is to remove curses to begin with I see no problems with a short cut. Also, I see it as creative thinking on the part of the Players and would reward it.

Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by Ravendas » Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:11 am

garhkal wrote: Now big related q.. Some cursed rings (delusion is a biggie) list regeneration as one of the 'side effects of it, to make you think it is NOT cursed.

So would the cut off finger regrow?

You misread it. Rings of Delusion (in 2e) delude you into thinking it has whatever power you want. It doesn't actually have that power. Ring of Delusion (Regeneration) might make the player not realize that clerics are casting healing spells on him, thinking his rapid healing is from the ring. It's really subjective, but it doesn't actually have any powers.

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Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by garhkal » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:49 pm

serleran wrote: Yeah, "certain actions" like holding anything, opening doors, using the hands for any thief-related abilities. Nothing. Indeed.

Unless they are low level or extremely poor getting any curse removed is really easy. And unless the curse is really, really bad they usually just end up being more of an annoyance than a real threat to the individual in question, especially if the rest of the group simply subdues the person and then drags him back to the nearest big city and a cleric, or if the group is high enough level the cleric himself can simply cast the spell. So, given how easy it is to remove curses to begin with I see no problems with a short cut. Also, I see it as creative thinking on the part of the Players and would reward it.

Part of many cursed items though, is that the one cursed does not realize it and therefore does not seek out a remove curse.

You misread it. Rings of Delusion (in 2e) delude you into thinking it has whatever power you want. It doesn't actually have that power. Ring of Delusion (Regeneration) might make the player not realize that clerics are casting healing spells on him, thinking his rapid healing is from the ring. It's really subjective, but it doesn't actually have any powers.

Re: [BtB] Cursed ring

Post by serleran » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:58 pm

serleran wrote: Yeah, "certain actions" like holding anything, opening doors, using the hands for any thief-related abilities. Nothing. Indeed.

Don't need them. Gauntlets of Dexterity have ramifications for "using the hands" and so do several other spells or magic items that can be extrapolated. Granted, they're typically 2e sources so using them in 1st edition would be "house ruled," it only makes logical sense to give some penalty for the loss of a thumb. unless the character doesn't need it, perhaps because they're a monkey. Or one of those tree-hugger rangers that grow a third arm.

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They are often consulted for their wisdom and guidance, acting as intermediaries between the physical and spiritual realms. While witches are often portrayed as solitary figures, women who come after witches are deeply connected to their communities. They are seen as pillars of strength and support, using their innate abilities to bring healing and peace to those around them. Whether they are offering a comforting ear to a troubled soul or using their knowledge of herbs to cure an illness, these women are there when they are needed most. In a world that often glorifies powerful and supernatural beings, it is important to remember the women who come after the witch. They may not possess the same flashy abilities or be able to command the attention of a crowd, but their impact on their communities is just as profound. These women are the ones who keep the peace, heal the sick, and provide comfort to those in need. They are the unsung heroes of our stories, and they deserve our recognition and admiration. In conclusion, the women who come after the witch may not have the same magical powers or captivating presence, but their contributions to their communities are invaluable. They are the healers, the caretakers, and the protectors, guiding their people through difficult times. It is important to honor and acknowledge these women and the integral roles they play in our world..

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